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Aloha, the Sequel and the Mystery
Surely you’ll remember our Weinstube Mystery that was quickly identified as belonging to adventurers Walter and Aloha Wanderwell. We promised you a sequel, if any more photos came to light and they certainly did. We heard from Randolph Eustace-Walden who, together with Christian Fink-Jensen, is writing a book about this amazing couple, which will be released in 2010. He told us that it’s not Aloha in the picture as she was almost six feet tall and would stand out. Most probably it’s her sister Meg (or Miki), standing just to the right of the lamp post. We also heard from Richard Diamond, grandson of Aloha Wanderwell, who presents us with a mystery that we might be able to help with… Walter Wanderwell owned nearly twenty autos from Model T Fords to the Jordan Blueboy. They had autographs all over them, from presidents, actors and famous people of the time. Yet no one has been able to find any of these great machines. So where did they all go? Have you seen one? Tell us!
A Rare Survivor? (UPDATE: see Special Saloon)
When we saw an Austin Seven Saloon in HVA’s auction catalogue we thought, hey, did we ever show you one of those? Yes, we did many years ago, so it’s time to highlight another one. These ‘boxes’ used to be so common on the roads, yet they have become quite rare nowadays. Of course there are plenty of Seven tourers or Seven based specials around, but saloons…? Maybe because they weren’t worth much to start with and expensive to restore, still they are lovely cars. Especially this maroon RL saloon, dating from December 1930. The RL saloon was introduced in March 1930, made until October 1931 and during that short period the body has been changed three times. This is the latest version that has the longer bonnet with louvres and the larger four-wheel brakes. It will be auctioned by Herefordshire Vintage Auctions on November 25th. Be sure to study carefully their elaborate catalogue in PDF, a long-long list of mouthwatering items. Starting with a fold flat sports screen up lot no. 519... a rolling chassis 1911 Napier project... Reading through all that one can agree with HVA: "A Sale for Enthusiasts run by Enthusiasts." (photos courtesy HVA).

Update: Today’s feature reminded Austin Harris of the Special Saloon that was raced by his father in the 80s. You can just about see the Shorrocks supercharger.
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Fred Roe, the author of "Duesenberg: the pursuit of perfection" died November 12. He was very active in sharing his vast knowledge to the last. (see report at Under the Hood/Oldcarsweekly)
The Sun Block Mystery (UPDATE II: 1912 Delaunay-Belville HB6 by Felber&Fils)
A white beach, a shining sun, gently waves and two unlikely beachcombers getting a suntan. What more do you want for a day-out, except for lots of sun block? Shawn Lancaster from Cambridge, Massachusetts, who sent us this photograph, assumes it was taken on the East coast of the USA. If so, then the white car on the left is obviously an American Austin from the early 1930s. But the other one is at least twenty years older and dates from the late 00's to early teens. Our first thought is that it could be a French Delaunay-Belleville, but we’re positive you can tell us more about it!

Update II by Malcolm Jeal:"it is a 1912 HB6 (six-cylinder 4.4-litre) with bodywork by Felber et Fils, one of the many coachbuilders of Paris. The attached photo (click) was taken in the late 1950s/early 60s and I am more or less sure that it shows the same car; the 'flat' body panels and more particularly the sloping windscreen (unusual for a formal-bodied car of the period) look to put the matter beyond doubt. By the time that the picture was taken the car appears to have been 'restored'. The leather-covered mudguards are somewhat unusual for a car by this date, but they were still used on their 'town carraiges' by Brewster, who just happened to be the American agents for Delaunay-Belleville, so perhaps it is not so odd after all."
Updates came in from Mark Dawber, Peter Ransom and Kit Foster, who all agree on Delaunay-Belleville.
Mark: “…maybe one of the smaller sixes - I think there was a six of less that 4 litres. I reckon the photo was taken maybe post WW2 - those are not its original tyres.”
Peter: “ …somewhere in the 1908-1912 period, but where do you start with that body? I don't believe it's sufficiently ornate for that era and seems to be a mixture of perhaps two bodies, perhaps as a Hollywood number for movie-making.”
Kit: “The pier at the right suggests very high tides, perhaps six to eight feet, as happens on the shore of New England. The license plate on the Delaunay-Belleville looks like Rhode Island in the 1930s, from the colour scheme and shape of the numbers. White-on-black could be 1932, 34, 36, 38 or 40.”
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